Ep 307 :Captain America White, Paybacks, Robin Son of Batman 4, Secret Six 6, Star Wars 9, and Tokyo Ghost 1!

Johnny Destructo, Ambush Bug and Optimous Douche take a look at this week’s books: Captain America White 1, Paybacks 1, Robin Son of Batman 4, Secret Six 6, Star Wars 9, and Tokyo Ghost 1!


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Captain America White 01 (Marvel) Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale – 01:55
Paybacks 01 (Dark Horse Comics) Donny Cates, Eliot Rahal, Geoff Shaw – 16:02
Robin – Son of Batman 04 (DC) Patrick Gleason, Mick Gray – 25:09
Secret Six 06 (DC) Gail Simone, Tom Derenick – 34:24
Star Wars 09 (Marvel) Jason Aaron, Stuart Immonen – 44:32
Tokyo Ghost 01 (Image) Rick Remender, Sean Murphy – 49:51

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7 Comments to “Ep 307 :Captain America White, Paybacks, Robin Son of Batman 4, Secret Six 6, Star Wars 9, and Tokyo Ghost 1!”

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  1. Roland says:

    Unkle Drunkle strikes back

  2. J.Goodwin says:

    The silver age Lee/Kirby version is that Bucky was basically the water boy / mascot in Steve’s unit after becoming an orphan when his father dies during training. The Brubaker version of Bucky’s origin is that Bucky started as an orphan, but was secretly sent overseas and trained by the government to be inserted into Steve Rogers’ unit specifically to be the partner of Captain America (this storyline was collected as the Life Story of Bucky Barnes, I think, this was after the Death of Captain America storyline, while Captain America was titled Captain America and Bucky, the 620s).

    Very typical of Brubaker’s light touch to retconning when he resurrected Bucky, little changes around the edges that support the big reveal that Bucky was retrieved by the Soviets and brainwashed for use as the ultimate secret assassin instead of dying in the ocean.

    Dude’s a freaking genius. I’m glad that the more recent editorial staff at Marvel have been open to these sorts of story proposals, and selective enough to mostly not fuck things up, with the possible exception of Original Sin and Secret Wars, which dug into more things than they probably should have, but that might be more because I absolutely hate Superior Iron Man and the current Bucky series and I feel a bit annoyed that some of the best series in Marvel effectively have gone on hiatus during Secret Wars (although the last days storylines have been almost universally great and there have been some good Secret Wars stories too (I do feel like Abnett’s Guardians 3000 was well justified by Secret Wars, and the Korvac Saga has felt like a natural continuation, but there has been a TWO MONTH GAP between issues 5 and 6 of Secret Wars so WTF?, not that it isn’t uncommon towards the end of these big crossovers at Marvel for whatever reason for it to just STOP for months).

  3. JD (Host) says:

    Thanks for the history lesson! I always like filling in the gaps for characters that I didn’t care about as a kid, but have gotten interested in as an adult (without having to go all the way back and read every story ever!)

    I like the ideas about Bucky that Brubaker brought to the table, but this Cap Am White story skips all that, sadly. I just have a hard time with the 30 second scene of “hey I know your secret, train me” with a simple “ok” response from Cap. I can’t believe that a man like Cap would so readily put a kid in harms way.

    The reason I like contemporary stories going back and re-detailing Silver Age stuff is that they attempt to give a more believable reason for the silly, more easily accepted story contrivances of the past.

    I’ve also completely given up on the current Space-Assassin Bucky storylines…is that still a thing?

  4. J.Goodwin says:

    Another issue of it came out this month. It has to be close to finishing at this point. All the other series that didn’t tie into Secret Wars are wrapping.

    Apparently CA: White was supposed to come out forever ago. It still would have released after the Bucky retcons, but it might have been concepted before Brubaker’s run.

  5. Roland says:

    Yea I read all of the Bucky Barnes Space Ranger series or whatever, last issue that came out was its finale. It read more like Silver Surfer than a Bucky book, but its still interesting in ways, the art was a paint style which is what mainly kept me around. But the story is all over the place. Maybe worth picking up in a trade.

  6. JD (Host) says:

    @Roland: It’s actually the art that turned me off the book the MOST. Oooopha. I like that they are experimenting with new art styles, but that just wasn’t for me :(

    @J.Goodwin : Good point about Cap White being written before all that RetConning! Duh I’m dumb.

  7. J.Goodwin says:

    I *loved* LOVED the art in the most recent Elektra series. Bucky I just couldn’t get into.

    I need to read Elektra: Assassin. I have it right here on my shelf somewhere.

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